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How much oxygen should I add to my wort?
« on: August 08, 2018, 08:27:52 PM »
I know a lot of people will either just shake the fermentor, or use a wand for 30 seconds or so, but I'd like a more controlled approach. Can anyone offer any guidance, or provide any literature/science on how much I should be adding specifically?

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Re: How much oxygen should I add to my wort?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2018, 08:40:44 PM »
I'm very sparing with oxygenation. I use an in-line stone with about 20 ft of line that delivers wort from the kettle, through the chiller, and to the fermenter. I probably have 20 5-gal batches on the little red oxygen canister that I'm still using.
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Re: How much oxygen should I add to my wort?
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2018, 08:41:33 PM »
I pitch a sufficient amount of healthy yeast and don't really aerate.
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Re: How much oxygen should I add to my wort?
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2018, 09:22:59 PM »
I don't believe in one size fits all with the use of oxygen. Too many "it depends" situations. But my rule of thumb is about a minute of O2 in normal gravity beers. I pitch active starters by the way. With my high gravity beers I re-oxygenate after 3hrs and again after 12hrs.

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Re: How much oxygen should I add to my wort?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2018, 11:07:32 PM »
As for science, 8ppm dissolved O2 is the most you can get using air, and 10ppm is about the most you'll ever see recommended.   BUT I think the most important thing is consistency, finding a procedure that gives you good results and then being able to repeat it.  You can get cheap, in-line flow meters for your O2 or air line, and consult charts to determine ideal flow rate and time.  But you can get equally good results from something like "X twists of the valve, Y Mississippis" (works fine for me.) 
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Re: How much oxygen should I add to my wort?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2018, 11:19:37 PM »
As for science, 8ppm dissolved O2 is the most you can get using air, and 10ppm is about the most you'll ever see recommended.   BUT I think the most important thing is consistency, finding a procedure that gives you good results and then being able to repeat it.  You can get cheap, in-line flow meters for your O2 or air line, and consult charts to determine ideal flow rate and time.  But you can get equally good results from something like "X twists of the valve, Y Mississippis" (works fine for me.)
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Re: How much oxygen should I add to my wort?
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2018, 12:51:07 AM »
I use dry yeast exclusively due to bad experiences with receiving DOA liquid cultures on delivery. I do not have a reliable LHBS that stocks heathy liquid yeast.  So... in my world aeration is optional. During the drying process, the yeast manufacturer incorporates key nutrients needed for cell growth. Consequently, dry cultures can be pitched into oxygen-poor wort. Aeration won’t hurt, but it’s not necessary.  YMMV


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Re: How much oxygen should I add to my wort?
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2018, 12:53:46 AM »
Even with high gravity beers?
I pitch a sufficient amount of healthy yeast and don't really aerate.

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Re: How much oxygen should I add to my wort?
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2018, 03:57:24 PM »
Even with high gravity beers?
I pitch a sufficient amount of healthy yeast and don't really aerate.

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Above 1.075ish, I'll hit it with my MixStir for a minute.  Below that I don't bother.  And I hardly ever make beers in excess of 1.075 any more.
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Re: How much oxygen should I add to my wort?
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2018, 06:41:12 PM »
I agree that if
I pitch a sufficient amount of healthy yeast and don't really aerate.
is the best method.

Most the time I just shake my carboy, especially if I’m using a dry yeast, because I want everything to be kind of uniform before it settles out and ferments . I have a wand but noticed higher lag times because the yeast would work on the oxygen before the sugars. I rarely use my wand now and after I ran out of a can I never even bought another one. Seemed like more hassle to me.
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Re: How much oxygen should I add to my wort?
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2018, 11:07:12 PM »
With the little red O2 cannisters and O2 stone,  I typically do about 90 seconds for an average gravity ale, 120 seconds for big daddy OG.

Lagers will get 2 minutes at 48F.

I have recently had better results using my O2 stone AND shaking the wort at the same time. I feel that more of the oxygen gets mixed in with the wort better leading to very short lag times.

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Re: How much oxygen should I add to my wort?
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2018, 11:18:16 PM »
I'd recommend aeration rather than oxygenation unless you have or can borrow a DO meter. Saturation levels are close enough to the recommendations for ales and lagers that I think the risk of using O2 blind outweigh the potential benefit.
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Re: How much oxygen should I add to my wort?
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2018, 12:56:46 PM »
Here is another take on oxygenation.  I have considered going to an in-line stone, like Martin does, but have been using this procedure for years and it works fine.

On the end of my transfer hose that goes from the chiller to the fermenter, I have a small piece of 3/8" copper tubing that has about 20 holes drilled in it angled slightly toward the exit end of the tube.  This allows air to be sucked in while transferring the wort.  It works along the same principle as an aerator on the end of a kitchen faucet that keeps the water from splashing when it hits the sink.  The tubing end of the hose is placed in the top opening of my conical and a sanitized paper towel is wrapped around the opening and the transfer hose to keep nasties out.  It works well and is a cheap and easy way to get about 8 PPM of oxygen into the wort.

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Re: How much oxygen should I add to my wort?
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2018, 03:30:14 PM »
I pitch a sufficient amount of healthy yeast and don't really aerate.

Ditto.  It splashes quite a bit going into my carboy anyway, I figure that's probably good enough.  Maybe I'm wrong.  Maybe I'm not.
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Re: How much oxygen should I add to my wort?
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2018, 12:10:39 PM »
I've stopped aerating my wort in favor of aerating my yeast. While I'm chilling I dump my slurry into a jug along with a little wort and shake for about a minute until it's all foam, let it stand for 30 min then pitch into fermenter. I have activity within an hour.