[trapae]

Planning on brewing a “lager” but don’t yet have the ability to ferment below 60.  Anyone know an ale yeast that tastes close to a crisp lager.

Thanks

[swampale]

There are a few of them. WLP029 is a Kolsch yeast. 2565 from Wyeast is another Kolsch yeast. Wyeast 2112 Cal lager is another one. WLP810 also.

[tommymorris]

I like wlp001 for faux lagers.  Very clean and crisp. Keep it as cool as you can 60-62F is great. It doesn’t taste exactly like a lager but it is very close.  I personally think it’s better than Kolsch yeast because Kolsch yeast tastes like Kolsch

PS. Do not try this with US-05. It is NOT the same as wlp001. US-05 imparts a very noticeable peach ester in light lager grain bills.

PS. lager to me is Helles/Dort. If your making something with dark Malts or lots of hops, the Kolsch flavor may be masked by those flavors. 

[dmtaylor]

S-189, 1007, and 2565 are your best bets IMO.  I haven't used K-97 yet but it's next on my list to try.  I did use S-189 lager yeast in the 60s not long ago and it turned out great.  Won me a silver medal in a BJCP competition.  Looked up my notes..... 64 F to be precise.

FYI, genetically speaking, WLP029 isn't a German yeast at all.  It's a very clean British ale yeast, closely related to WLP002 & WLP007.  But it's a decent option.

I agree with tommymorris about US-05 not being the same as standard Chico 1056/WLP001.  It's not the same, and it does produce the peach when cold.

[dls5492]

wlp810 San Francisco lager yeast will work. Temperature range from 58 to 65.

[Silver_Is_Money]

Fermentis W-34/70 remains clean and crisp at moderate ale fermentation temperatures.

[Robert]

FYI, genetically speaking, WLP029 isn't a German yeast at all.  It's a very clean British ale yeast, closely related to WLP002 & WLP007.  But it's a decent option.

Dave, OT, but... I haven't spotted WLP029 on suregork's trees.  Where did you find this?

[denny]

I'm gonna jump in here and say don't use 2565 for a lager.  It has a distinctive windy flavor that's great for kitsch and totally out of place in other styles.

[dmtaylor]

FYI, genetically speaking, WLP029 isn't a German yeast at all.  It's a very clean British ale yeast, closely related to WLP002 & WLP007.  But it's a decent option.

Dave, OT, but... I haven't spotted WLP029 on suregork's trees.  Where did you find this?

Hidden in the little comment details on suregork's page.  Comment from qq dated 5/9/18, almost all the way down the page at:

http://beer.suregork.com/?p=4000

qq provides a link to a smaller study that shows the relationship:

https://www.biorxiv.org/sites/all/libraries/pdfjs/web/viewer.html?file=/content/biorxiv/early/2017/09/27/194969.full.pdf#page=29

[Robert]

FYI, genetically speaking, WLP029 isn't a German yeast at all.  It's a very clean British ale yeast, closely related to WLP002 & WLP007.  But it's a decent option.

Dave, OT, but... I haven't spotted WLP029 on suregork's trees.  Where did you find this?

Hidden in the little comment details on suregork's page.  Comment from qq dated 5/9/18, almost all the way down the page at:

http://beer.suregork.com/?p=4000

qq provides a link to a smaller study that shows the relationship:

https://www.biorxiv.org/sites/all/libraries/pdfjs/web/viewer.html?file=/content/biorxiv/early/2017/09/27/194969.full.pdf#page=29

Cheers!

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[reverseapachemaster]

Fermentis W-34/70 remains clean and crisp at moderate ale fermentation temperatures.

If you can ferment in the mid to low 60s I would recommend this approach.

[Steve Ruch]

Wyeast pacman yeast made me a pretty good faux pilsner a while back fermented at 72.

[trapae]

So I looked into WLP810 after reading responses.  Lager yeast that is happy up to 65 degrees.  Anyone have experience with it?  Taste profile?  I could definitely kee it at 60-62.
Thanks.

[dmtaylor]

So I looked into WLP810 after reading responses.  Lager yeast that is happy up to 65 degrees.  Anyone have experience with it?  Taste profile?  I could definitely kee it at 60-62.
Thanks.

WLP810 makes good beer.  I've only used it twice so I don't have strong opinions but it's good.  However I still prefer very much the 1007 which is simply excellent.

[denny]

So I looked into WLP810 after reading responses.  Lager yeast that is happy up to 65 degrees.  Anyone have experience with it?  Taste profile?  I could definitely kee it at 60-62.
Thanks.

WLP810 makes good beer.  I've only used it twice so I don't have strong opinions but it's good.  However I still prefer very much the 1007 which is simply excellent.

Very much agreed.