I take a very different view about dry yeast, subsequent use and pitch rate vs the moderator here. Growing new daughter cells and providing them with the sterols and unsaturated fatty acids goferm protect evolution that Chris White stresses, is important for premium results to me. The more fresh cells grown along with the building blocks they need in the wort they will ferment, trumps trying to use less, potentially impaired rehydated cells to slowly do the job. These building blocks are not just for wine as Chris states, they are critical to all yeast that divide to be in peak performance to get to work properly. This adds 30 cents per five gallons of beer produced, it's kinda like throwing a deck chair off The Queen Mary as far as cost to any home brewer.
wyeast nottingham $4, bry97 $4.99, whitelabs after a recent price increase - averaging about $15 and then i still need to build a starter. so it is a real difference for me, and even in the states i am pretty sure its not just 30 cents difference.
I take a very different view about dry yeast, subsequent use and pitch rate vs the moderator here. Growing new daughter cells and providing them with the sterols and unsaturated fatty acids goferm protect evolution that Chris White stresses, is important for premium results to me. The more fresh cells grown along with the building blocks they need in the wort they will ferment, trumps trying to use less, potentially impaired rehydated cells to slowly do the job. These building blocks are not just for wine as Chris states, they are critical to all yeast that divide to be in peak performance to get to work properly. This adds 30 cents per five gallons of beer produced, it's kinda like throwing a deck chair off The Queen Mary as far as cost to any home brewer.
One of my issues with White Labs is that they give you the bare minimum of cells in homebrew packs - but they give you x1.5 more cells in pro brew packs. wyeast smack packs are like that too, i bet you get even less than white labs - they say you get 100 million cells, but you're actually buying less than that. I'm nitpicking here, they both have great strains. However, Imperial and Omega gives you more cells upfront.
ive probably stated this before but one of the main reasons i use dry yeasts when i do is using 2 or 3 packs of bry97 or other yeasts to make a really big beer like an imperial stout around 1.100 because 1. dont have to brew a stepup beer 2. dont have to oxygenate (and invest in o2 tanks) to help the fermentation. i have had really good success with just planning big beers using 2 or 3 packs of yeast and it makes my brewing process much easier.
why i use liquid yeast is because there are more options out there and it may be bias, but i feel like i can get a better tasting beer in the liquid range i am comfortable with (1.04 up to 1.07) without additional oxygenation of wort especially in the styles that arent well represented by dry yeast equivalents.
im currently going to switch my liquid selection to escarpment labs and see how that goes. they, like most newer liquid yeast purveyors promise high >200mil i think cellcounts so i will try not using a starter potentially as well. their price range is still in the reasonable ~$11 range