[nvshooter2276]

I had an idea as to how to sterilize a bunch of bottles in one stroke. I can fit fourteen of the 500cc PET bottles-- upright-- in my eight-gallon kettle; would take just under five gallons to cover them. One ounce of Star•San in that five galleons of water. I'd hold the bottles underwater by virtue of marbles or glass stirring rods we see used in chemistry labs. I think contact time for Star•San is two minutes; I'd go four or five-- or more-- just to be dam-ned sure I killed every microbial Democrat hiding way down in the bottom of the bottle. I found 10mm stirring rods on amazon; they're not obscenely-priced. They're about eight inches long-- just enough to be entirely inside the bottle. They're made of boro-silicate glass; said to be stronger than your garden variety glass used in tumblers, et cetera.

The stirring rods would be easier to handle than would a handful of marbles, but I have the marbles on-hand. I have yet to figger-out how many marbles would negate the buoyancy of the bottles. If it's six, I'll just add a seventh and that will keep the bottle underwater for as long as need be.

Comments, opinions and insults welcomed...


https://www.amazon.com/MECCANIXITY-Borosilicate-Length-Kitchen-Science/dp/B0BB28NRLY/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1

[denny]

A solution in search of a problem. So much overkill it's hard to describe. I can't see you gaining anything by it. According to the company, 30 seconds of SS contact us more than sufficient according to lab tests. They say 2 minutes for legal reasons. And please refrain from political references.

[Kevin]

And don't forget you still have to thoroughly wash each bottle. Starsan is not a cleaner - its a sanitizer. I scrub each bottle using a good cleaner and a bottle brush then run them in my dishwasher set on the sanitize setting.

[jeffy]

I'm not sure why you need either marbles or glass rods. I fill a bucket with sanitizing solution (I use iodophor), then put the bottles in, filling them up as I go.

[denny]

I'm not sure why you need either marbles or glass rods. I fill a bucket with sanitizing solution (I use iodophor), then put the bottles in, filling them up as I go.

Yep. When you submerge the bottles they fill with water.

[Drewch]

I dunno ... this sounds like more work than my spray bottle of StarSan and FastFerment drying rack.  Spritz spritz swirl repeat.

[denny]

I dunno ... this sounds like more work than my spray bottle of StarSan and FastFerment drying rack.  Spritz spritz swirl repeat.

Indeed.

[narcout]

Just submerging them in sanitizer and letting them float around will work fine. 

However, the easiest, fastest way I have found to sanitize bottles is to use one of these: https://www.morebeer.com/products/sanitizer-injector-red-bottle-tree.html

And either one of these:

https://www.morebeer.com/products/bottle-tree-45-seat-rotating-base.html

https://www.morebeer.com/products/fastrack24-12oz-beer-bottle-drying-rack-storage-system.html

[denny]

Just submerging them in sanitizer and letting them float around will work fine. 

However, the easiest, fastest way I have found to sanitize bottles is to use one of these: https://www.morebeer.com/products/sanitizer-injector-red-bottle-tree.html

And either one of these:

https://www.morebeer.com/products/bottle-tree-45-seat-rotating-base.html

https://www.morebeer.com/products/fastrack24-12oz-beer-bottle-drying-rack-storage-system.html

And though submerging them is easy, you don't really need to. That's why just spraying works. Wetting the surface is sufficient.

[neuse]

Just submerging them in sanitizer and letting them float around will work fine. 

However, the easiest, fastest way I have found to sanitize bottles is to use one of these: https://www.morebeer.com/products/sanitizer-injector-red-bottle-tree.html

And either one of these:

https://www.morebeer.com/products/bottle-tree-45-seat-rotating-base.html

https://www.morebeer.com/products/fastrack24-12oz-beer-bottle-drying-rack-storage-system.html

I use that sprayer - I think it was called a vinator for some reason when I bought it. But I don't put the bottles in any kind of a rack. I fill one bottle while spraying the next. It takes me just over 30 seconds to fill a bottle - just enough time for Star San to work on the next bottle.

[denny]

Just submerging them in sanitizer and letting them float around will work fine. 

However, the easiest, fastest way I have found to sanitize bottles is to use one of these: https://www.morebeer.com/products/sanitizer-injector-red-bottle-tree.html

And either one of these:

https://www.morebeer.com/products/bottle-tree-45-seat-rotating-base.html

https://www.morebeer.com/products/fastrack24-12oz-beer-bottle-drying-rack-storage-system.html

I use that sprayer - I think it was called a vinator for some reason when I bought it. But I don't put the bottles in any kind of a rack. I fill one bottle while spraying the next. It takes me just over 30 seconds to fill a bottle - just enough time for Star San to work on the next bottle.

It' called a vinator because the tree was originally designed for wine bottles

[chinaski]

ned sure I killed every microbial Democrat hiding way down in the bottom of the bottle.
Comments, opinions and insults welcomed...


https://www.amazon.com/MECCANIXITY-Borosilicate-Length-Kitchen-Science/dp/B0BB28NRLY/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1

I'll take insults for $400, Alex.  Don't slight Democrats- it's a homebrewing forum! 

Just so you know, Star-San is a sanitizer, not a sterilizer, so a few microbes may remain no matter how you apply it.  And that's OK because its home brewing.

[Richard]

I second the use of a sanitizer injector. Not only is it fast, you need a lot less sanitizer. Instead of 5 gallons you can get by with a cup or two.

[majorvices]

A solution in search of a problem. So much overkill it's hard to describe. I can't see you gaining anything by it. According to the company, 30 seconds of SS contact us more than sufficient according to lab tests. They say 2 minutes for legal reasons. And please refrain from political references.

+1--as long as the bottles are clean, a quick rinse in sanitizer is all that is needed. Cleaning is what is most important here: you can't sanitize something that is dirty. In fact, perfectly clean bottles are probably fine and will doubtful infect the beer once it is femented (keep in mind, due to the low pH and lack of available fermentables, beer is fairly stable once fermentation is complete). You could look at sanitization as an added step of insurance. But certainly no need to overkill or overthink.

[neuse]

A solution in search of a problem. So much overkill it's hard to describe. I can't see you gaining anything by it. According to the company, 30 seconds of SS contact us more than sufficient according to lab tests. They say 2 minutes for legal reasons. And please refrain from political references.

+1--as long as the bottles are clean, a quick rinse in sanitizer is all that is needed. Cleaning is what is most important here: you can't sanitize something that is dirty. In fact, perfectly clean bottles are probably fine and will doubtful infect the beer once it is femented (keep in mind, due to the low pH and lack of available fermentables, beer is fairly stable once fermentation is complete). You could look at sanitization as an added step of insurance. But certainly no need to overkill or overthink.

That's very interesting. Charlie Talley once said essentially the same thing in a podcast. Cleaning theoretically eliminates the need for sanitizing. Sanitizing is insurance. (I still wouldn't skip the sanitizing.)