Yeah - the APA is a great beer when fresh, - BTW, I thought they dropped the "Doggie Style" part of the label a while back. The IPA is pretty decent too, as is the Imperial Porter. The rest is 'meh'
Funny you say that about Westy, Gordon - just this morning, one of my clients mentioned he is going to Belgium next week and asked what beers should he try - I told him almost anything he can get there will be worth it, but do not leave without trying some of the Westvleterens, to which he asked what the labels look like - and I chuckled and told him 'no label'. He said, then they must be really good.