[hopfenundmalz]

Re Willamette - It's one of my favorite aroma hops. They says it's actually fuggle, maybe genetically but to my nose and taste its cascade lite

Willamette is a triploid Fuggles, so it is more robust, and there is that PNW terroir going on.

[The Professor]

Am I the only one that likes English IPA's? Challenger,Fuggle,and East Kent Goldings make for an excellent IPA.

those can make a very nice English IPA.

Made a Ballantine IPA clone that was tasty. Bullion, Cluster, EKG.

For quite some time now, I've pretty much settled on Bullion & Cluster as my go-to combination for IPA.  For aroma, I often change things up and have used a variety of different hops, but lately  a combination of Cluster and Cascades gives me pretty much what I'm looking for.

[denny]

I heard good things about Williamette? I read an article a week or so ago that recommended it for APA/IPA
Opinions?

Despite the fact that I live in the Willamette valley near the Willamette river, you'll never find Willamette hops in my IPA!  They have an earthiness I don't care for.

[kmccaf]

I heard good things about Williamette? I read an article a week or so ago that recommended it for APA/IPA
Opinions?

I almost always use Willamette, Glacier, Crystal, or Mt. Hood in my IPA/APAs along with the more powerhouse hops. Sometimes I get a little metallic taste from Willamette though. The earthy, spicy, and herbal nature of those hops brings some complexity to the style, IMO.

Otherwise, Nugget/Mosaic is a hop combo I quite like, as well as Brewer's Gold/Mosaic. Another one is Pacific Jade/Crystal plus another hop that I throw in while brewing.

[klickitat jim]

Not sure if it would make an IPA but I enjoy beers named after the hops inside. In fact I am planning one called Cluster Fuggle!

[erockrph]

Not sure if it would make an IPA but I enjoy beers named after the hops inside. In fact I am planning one called Cluster Fuggle!

That's funny, I'm planning an English IPA called Fuggly Nugget myself

[ns3580]

I guess what I'm looking for is something similar to Green Flash West Coast IPA.  I like the grapefuity taste of that.  Mostly just want to try something different, but I don't want to use clashing flavors, or something that would be completely inappropriate.

there is a greenflash recipe in the latest issue of zymurgy that uses simcoe and columbus for most of the bittering and flavor additions until the very end.  It then calls for a large late addition of cascade and uses centennial, simcoe, columbus, amarillo and cascade to dry hop.  i have made this before and it is very good.  on my latest attempt of this beer i substituted the cascade additions with citra and it turned out awesome.  there is a huge grapefruit character that you may be looking for

[vista]

Would the anti Denny pale ale consist of willamette hops And Nottingham yeast? Delicious earthy tartness!

[oly]

I guess what I'm looking for is something similar to Green Flash West Coast IPA.  I like the grapefuity taste of that.  Mostly just want to try something different, but I don't want to use clashing flavors, or something that would be completely inappropriate.

there is a greenflash recipe in the latest issue of zymurgy that uses simcoe and columbus for most of the bittering and flavor additions until the very end.  It then calls for a large late addition of cascade and uses centennial, simcoe, columbus, amarillo and cascade to dry hop.  i have made this before and it is very good.  on my latest attempt of this beer i substituted the cascade additions with citra and it turned out awesome.  there is a huge grapefruit character that you may be looking for

Thanks for the citra tip. I also have made that recipe many time and it's great, making it Monday but looking to change it up a bit.  did you sub out all the cascade for citra? ounce for ounce?

[denny]

Would the anti Denny pale ale consist of willamette hops And Nottingham yeast? Delicious earthy tartness!

 

[HoosierBrew]

I guess what I'm looking for is something similar to Green Flash West Coast IPA.  I like the grapefuity taste of that.  Mostly just want to try something different, but I don't want to use clashing flavors, or something that would be completely inappropriate.

there is a greenflash recipe in the latest issue of zymurgy that uses simcoe and columbus for most of the bittering and flavor additions until the very end.  It then calls for a large late addition of cascade and uses centennial, simcoe, columbus, amarillo and cascade to dry hop.  i have made this before and it is very good.  on my latest attempt of this beer i substituted the cascade additions with citra and it turned out awesome.  there is a huge grapefruit character that you may be looking for

Thanks for the citra tip. I also have made that recipe many time and it's great, making it Monday but looking to change it up a bit.  did you sub out all the cascade for citra? ounce for ounce?

Personally, if I subbed out Cascade for Citra, it wouldn't be oz for oz.  Citra is a great hop but can flat take over if used in equal amounts with other hops IMO.  I would use 1/2 (or just over) the amount that you used for Cascade. I'm sure it would work either way though.

[fmader]

I'm thinking about trying to bitter with Summit and finishing with Simcoe and Mosaic. I've read a lot of threads where people knock Summit, and the profile taste of "garlic/onion" is kind of a turn off. I just had an Oskar Blues Gubna, which is exclusively Summit, and love it.

[AmandaK]

Personally, if I subbed out Cascade for Citra, it wouldn't be oz for oz.  Citra is a great hop but can flat take over if used in equal amounts with other hops IMO.  I would use 1/2 (or just over) the amount that you used for Cascade. I'm sure it would work either way though.

In my brewery, I find this to be true when the beer is fresh, but as it ages a slight amount (say 3-4 weeks in a keg), the Citra domination seems to calm down so I can find the other hop varieties.

[chumley]

Nice to see others using Cluster for a bittering hop for IPAs.  Spares me from having to suggest it.

In addition to Cluster, Northern Brewer is also a great IPA bittering hop.

Now after your Cluster/Northern Brewer bittering hop addition, please proceed with Centennial/Amarillo/Cascade for flavor/aroma/dry hop additions, and you are good to go.

[bboy9000]

I like most PNW hops in my IPA's but a Simcoe, Amarillo and Cascade combo used in a Basic Brewing Radio APA was excellent.  It was a "15-minute APA" from extract.  I like the hop combo so much I'm getting ready to keg an all-grain rendition of it. The gravity samples have tasted awesome!  My version is more like an "Extra Pale Ale" at 6.2% abv so it may work in an IPA. The hop schedule for 5G batch per James Spencer on BBR:

2 oz. Simcoe @ 15 mins.
2 oz. Amarillo @ 5 mins.
2 oz. Cascade @ flame out

All late additions so more hops required for desired bitterness but awesome hop flavor and aroma!

*EDIT*  I also don't get the "cat pee" flavor it aroma from Simcoe that people refer to.  A friend of mine who gets that aroma suggested because I'm using it in combination with other hops it may not show up.  Others have suggested the Simcoe "cat pee" may me due to hop oxidation.  I've used it twice and will keep doing so in this combination.