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brown ale with munich base
« on: January 05, 2015, 04:15:35 PM »
I am looking for a nice smooth and malty brown ale with subdued roasted qualities. I like the idea of using Munich for all of the base malt but worried about going overboard. I have only brewed one 100% munich malt beer which was quite a while ago so I don't really have much experience.

Any input on something like this?
82% munich 10L
10% flaked oats
5% crystal
3% midnight wheat? (enough to get appropriate color)

Probably just a Magnum FWH addition to reach an IBU:OG of 0.50
S04 yeast
Brown malty water profile?

Not sure if this would classify as a brown or not...

 
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Re: brown ale with munich base
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2015, 04:30:29 PM »
If you get rid of the crystal malt and change to a clean altbier yeast, this would make a great alt.  Or it could be a sort of alt/brown ale hybrid.  In any case, it looks very tasty to me.  No adjustments really needed.  To ensure good conversion, do a longer mash than usual, maybe 75-90 minutes around 150-ish.  Yum.
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Re: brown ale with munich base
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2015, 04:33:25 PM »
If you get rid of the crystal malt and change to a clean altbier yeast, this would make a great alt.  Or it could be a sort of alt/brown ale hybrid.  In any case, it looks very tasty to me.  No adjustments really needed.  To ensure good conversion, do a longer mash than usual, maybe 75-90 minutes around 150-ish.  Yum.

Thanks! I already do an Alt hybrid type beer so looking for something closer to a brown even if it isn't a typical one. Maybe I will toast the flaked oats as well.
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Re: brown ale with munich base
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2015, 04:34:57 PM »
you could even toss an lb of pils in there to ensure conversion. The munich can probably handle it but with the flaked oats it would be a nice safety net.
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Re: brown ale with munich base
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2015, 04:53:25 PM »
you could even toss an lb of pils in there to ensure conversion. The munich can probably handle it but with the flaked oats it would be a nice safety net.

Thanks for the advice. I will probably throw some pilsner in to be safe. I won't be getting around to this one for a bit. Gotta wait until there is an opening on the rotating dark tap
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Re: brown ale with munich base
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2015, 05:23:09 PM »
Take a look at this for an example.  I think it's pretty much what you're looking for.

http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/NotiBrownAle
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Re: brown ale with munich base
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2015, 06:00:39 PM »
Take a look at this for an example.  I think it's pretty much what you're looking for.

http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/NotiBrownAle

Hey...you only have 12% munich in there. ;D

By the way Denny, I have always been curious about that Galena addition in your Noti.
Was that something you had to use up...or is that a part of your recipe overall plan?

Thanks

goshman - love the idea of a "rotating dark tap"!  :)  have fun.

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Re: brown ale with munich base
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2015, 06:40:09 PM »
Take a look at this for an example.  I think it's pretty much what you're looking for.

http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/NotiBrownAle

Hey...you only have 12% munich in there. ;D

By the way Denny, I have always been curious about that Galena addition in your Noti.
Was that something you had to use up...or is that a part of your recipe overall plan?

Thanks

goshman - love the idea of a "rotating dark tap"!  :)  have fun.

I have looked at the Noti recipe a few times. Looks great but not sure it is what I am going for with this attempt.

I have 4 taps so I have been trying to come up with ideas to help determine my brewing schedule. Here is what I have come up with. The problem is I probably won't brew each more than once a year since I am brewing every 3-4 weeks currently. 

rotating dark: porter, black lager, brown, etc
rotating light: American wheat, kolsch, blonde
rotating hoppy: APA, IPA
rotating miscellaneous: saison, alt, Oktoberfest, etc
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Re: brown ale with munich base
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2015, 06:44:59 PM »
Take a look at this for an example.  I think it's pretty much what you're looking for.

http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/NotiBrownAle

Hey...you only have 12% munich in there. ;D

By the way Denny, I have always been curious about that Galena addition in your Noti.
Was that something you had to use up...or is that a part of your recipe overall plan?

Thanks

goshman - love the idea of a "rotating dark tap"!  :)  have fun.

The recipe I "adpated" (Eugene Brown ale) from Noonan's Seven Barrels Brewery book used it and back in the day it was pretty easy to find.  These days I sub in Columbus and use Magnum for bittering.
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Re: brown ale with munich base
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2015, 07:00:40 PM »
Take a look at this for an example.  I think it's pretty much what you're looking for.

http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/NotiBrownAle

Hey...you only have 12% munich in there. ;D

By the way Denny, I have always been curious about that Galena addition in your Noti.
Was that something you had to use up...or is that a part of your recipe overall plan?

Thanks

goshman - love the idea of a "rotating dark tap"!  :)  have fun.

I have looked at the Noti recipe a few times. Looks great but not sure it is what I am going for with this attempt.

I have 4 taps so I have been trying to come up with ideas to help determine my brewing schedule. Here is what I have come up with. The problem is I probably won't brew each more than once a year since I am brewing every 3-4 weeks currently. 

rotating dark: porter, black lager, brown, etc
rotating light: American wheat, kolsch, blonde
rotating hoppy: APA, IPA
rotating miscellaneous: saison, alt, Oktoberfest, etc

That is a pretty tasty list.

I brewed a Munich Brown Ale with 80% Munich. I will be kegging it later this week, but the sample was very good. Just tapped my Munich Rye Porter yesterday, and it is simply incredible. I think you will be pleased with your recipe. I threw in some 6-row to help with the conversion on the Brown ale.
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Re: brown ale with munich base
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2015, 07:06:12 PM »
One thing I can recommend is using chocolate instead of black malt. My last porter had no black malt and I have a brown ale bottled now using chocolate for color. They both have a nice balanced malty roastiness that is not at all harsh. That being said I have not tried midnight wheat yet. My brown I call a hybrid brown, it has American (homegrown cascade and galena) hops and Wy1968. Its super quaffable.
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Re: brown ale with munich base
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2015, 08:07:33 PM »
Take a look at this for an example.  I think it's pretty much what you're looking for.

http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/NotiBrownAle

Hey...you only have 12% munich in there. ;D

By the way Denny, I have always been curious about that Galena addition in your Noti.
Was that something you had to use up...or is that a part of your recipe overall plan?

Thanks

goshman - love the idea of a "rotating dark tap"!  :)  have fun.

I have looked at the Noti recipe a few times. Looks great but not sure it is what I am going for with this attempt.

I have 4 taps so I have been trying to come up with ideas to help determine my brewing schedule. Here is what I have come up with. The problem is I probably won't brew each more than once a year since I am brewing every 3-4 weeks currently. 

rotating dark: porter, black lager, brown, etc
rotating light: American wheat, kolsch, blonde
rotating hoppy: APA, IPA
rotating miscellaneous: saison, alt, Oktoberfest, etc

That is a pretty tasty list.

I brewed a Munich Brown Ale with 80% Munich. I will be kegging it later this week, but the sample was very good. Just tapped my Munich Rye Porter yesterday, and it is simply incredible. I think you will be pleased with your recipe. I threw in some 6-row to help with the conversion on the Brown ale.

Let me know how your brown turns out. I was also thinking of doing something similar for my porter so we must be on the same page ;)
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Re: brown ale with munich base
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2015, 08:10:00 PM »
One thing I can recommend is using chocolate instead of black malt. My last porter had no black malt and I have a brown ale bottled now using chocolate for color. They both have a nice balanced malty roastiness that is not at all harsh. That being said I have not tried midnight wheat yet. My brown I call a hybrid brown, it has American (homegrown cascade and galena) hops and Wy1968. Its super quaffable.

I just used midnight wheat in a black lager at a similar percentage so I should be able to judge its harshness. Since there is no husk, it is supposed to be very smooth at lower percentages. If the black lager doesn't have a desired roasted quality, I will probably go with chocolate or pale chocolate.
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Re: brown ale with munich base
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2015, 02:26:57 PM »
kmccaf, did you get this kegged yet? What are your impressions up to this point?
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Re: brown ale with munich base
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2015, 02:34:23 PM »
Kegged it on Saturday. I will taste it tonight, and let you know. I decided to dry hop it with some Hallertau Tradition and Styrian Aurora.
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