Cool, Jim. I have my saison coming up next week. Ferment it out fully, then add fully ripe Blackberries - like 6 pounds and add Brett to finish. After 2-3 moths from that date - it should be getting good. But, if I can hold off until 6 months later, it will be so good that I won't waste it on a comp. I had a gallon that I held out until late April this past spring and man was it good. Glad you are into this!