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Offline Robert

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JaDeD SS chiller?
« on: September 24, 2019, 03:51:54 AM »
This is probably a Denny question.   Is there/will there be a stainless version of the JaDeD 3-coil ICs?  Does any manufacturer have such a product?  I'm thinking about a stainless chiller as a possible future upgrade, but if there's ever going to be one built on this general design I'll sit tight and wait.
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Re: JaDeD SS chiller?
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2019, 02:45:33 PM »
I think I saw an ad for one on FB yesterday.  Have you checked their website?
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Re: JaDeD SS chiller?
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2019, 02:55:50 PM »
I think I saw an ad for one on FB yesterday.  Have you checked their website?
Nothing listed on the website as of last night, but there was a little out of focus pic of something suspiciously shiny and the words "coming soon," nothing else.  I figured you'd have the advance scoop on their products.  If you've seen an ad, I'll just keep watching the website.

I like the idea of SS for ease of  cleaning and being non reactive, but it is slower to chill than copper so I've never considered it a practical alternative.  I figure their 3 coil design should help mitigate that, and now that I can recirculate ice water, the less efficient heat exchange should no longer be a deal breaker.
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Re: JaDeD SS chiller?
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2019, 03:01:23 PM »
I think I saw an ad for one on FB yesterday.  Have you checked their website?
Nothing listed on the website as of last night, but there was a little out of focus pic of something suspiciously shiny and the words "coming soon," nothing else.  I figured you'd have the advance scoop on their products.  If you've seen an ad, I'll just keep watching the website.

I like the idea of SS for ease of  cleaning and being non reactive, but it is slower to chill than copper so I've never considered it a practical alternative.  I figure their 3 coil design should help mitigate that, and now that I can recirculate ice water, the less efficient heat exchange should no longer be a deal breaker.

About 85% as effective, as else equal.
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Re: JaDeD SS chiller?
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2019, 03:52:08 PM »
They have a large in focus pic on their FB page of an SS chiller that says coming soon.
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Re: JaDeD SS chiller?
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2019, 05:05:58 PM »
They have a large in focus pic on their FB page of an SS chiller that says coming soon.
Cool!  Maybe "soon" means in time for Santa to throw one on the sleigh for me! 
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Re: JaDeD SS chiller?
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2019, 05:21:06 PM »
They have a large in focus pic on their FB page of an SS chiller that says coming soon.
Cool!  Maybe "soon" means in time for Santa to throw one on the sleigh for me! 

I'd bet that's the plan.  I'll try to remember to contact Clay for details
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Re: JaDeD SS chiller?
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2019, 04:19:34 PM »
Saw that a former Jaded employee has split off and started a different company. They announced a ss tri-coil chiller coming soon also.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/forum/threads/hercules%E2%84%A2-s-s-triple-feed-ic.670336/

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Re: JaDeD SS chiller?
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2019, 07:51:40 PM »

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About 85% as effective, as else equal.
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I wondered what was the loss between the 2.

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Re: JaDeD SS chiller?
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2019, 08:56:12 PM »


About 85% as effective, as else equal.
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I wondered what was the loss between the 2.
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Copper is a much better conductor of heat. The thermal circuit is the condition from wort to chiller, chiller, chiller to water. The transfer to the liquids controls the equivalent resistance. In other words, those are the big resistors, to the metal is a small resistor, so making that bigger or smaller has only a little change in performance.
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Re: JaDeD SS chiller?
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2019, 10:45:24 PM »
Word is, the JaDeD product is a stainless version of the Hydra, and will indeed be out "soon."  Sounds pretty attractive to me.
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Re: JaDeD SS chiller?
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2019, 11:21:50 AM »
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Copper is a much better conductor of heat. The thermal circuit is the condition from wort to chiller, chiller, chiller to water. The transfer to the liquids controls the equivalent resistance. In other words, those are the big resistors, to the metal is a small resistor, so making that bigger or smaller has only a little change in performance.
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I knew copper was better. All I can say is between the JaDeD Hydra and the Blichmann Hellfire, my brewdays are much shorter.

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Re: JaDeD SS chiller?
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2019, 02:47:21 PM »
Why are people interested in SS?  Copper is more efficient.
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Re: JaDeD SS chiller?
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2019, 03:10:55 PM »
Why are people interested in SS?  Copper is more efficient.

SS is about 85% as effective, all else equal.

SS is more durable. You will get fewer metal ions from SS, so less staling from Fenton reactions. Depending on commodity prices, SS can be cheaper than copper (you have to check).

Disclaimer. I bought a coil of 1/2 inch copper when it was cheaper. I used Brewtan-B to chelate the metal ions.
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