Thanks for the input. My last Vienna was all Vienna malt, with 10% Carared. It is Ok. I am attempting something closer to the style guidelines, but not targeting Negra Modelo as a goal.
The plan was to enter this in a competition.
This will not have the ABV to put it into Bock territory. The Munich is Ireks Light Munich.
Here is what the recipe builder says…
Matches styles based on stats only:
Oktoberfest/Märzen, Irish Red Ale, Belgian Pale Ale, Saison, Belgian Specialty Ale, Fruit Beer, Spice, Herb, or Vegetable Beer, Other Smoked Beer, Specialty Beer, Vienna Lager, Kellerbier: Amber Kellerbier, Belgian Pale Ale, Saison