If you want a good deal look for a restaurant supply store in your area. Usually they have the pans listed by type (18/10, etc) so you're only paying for the quality of the pan and not a brand name. They're generally not boxed either so you can pick up the pan, look it over, feel for weight, check that the bottom is heavy enough, handle comfort, etc before buying. My husband and I are currently phasing out most of our non-stick pans too.