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Offline oscarvan

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Charlie's gluten free recipe....
« on: January 17, 2011, 04:27:18 pm »
I want to brew that for a friend. But, I would like to start simple and make two changes.

First I would like to do a single infusion and batch sparge......any great loss in that? Suggested temp?

Secondly, my friend is not THAT much of a hop head, so I was thinking about reducing the bittering hops by 50% to get to about 40 HBU....

Am I thinking straight?
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Re: Charlie's gluten free recipe....
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2011, 10:08:48 am »
Anyone home?  ;D
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Re: Charlie's gluten free recipe....
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2011, 10:47:36 am »
Anyone home?  ;D

No experience on this topic but I think a single infusion in the lower end of the temp range should work reasonably well.

My concern would be the fact that it isn't really a gluten free beer but rather a it's a very low gluten beer.  One of my sisters-in-law (sister-in-laws ?, I can't remember today) has celiacs, as do her 2 kids.  She runs a gluten free bakery in Colorado and is adamant that any gluten is too much gluten.  Before you go through the effort to brew it you probably want to make sure your friend is willing to drink it.

If you do and your friend doesn't have any issues with it, please let us know.  My brother has been looking for a good recipe for a few years now.

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Re: Charlie's gluten free recipe....
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2011, 01:34:12 pm »
Yup, my bud is willing to try, and if after the first few it turns out it's a no go......well, I'll sacrifice myself and drink it.
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Re: Charlie's gluten free recipe....
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2011, 04:03:07 pm »
Yup, my bud is willing to try, and if after the first few it turns out it's a no go......well, I'll sacrifice myself and drink it.
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Re: Charlie's gluten free recipe....
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2011, 11:07:07 am »
So what do you think of it from a perspective of a regular gluten consumer....is it worth drinking or making for the hell of it?
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Re: Charlie's gluten free recipe....
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2011, 12:12:28 pm »
You should probably only make a couple gallons at first. My experiences with gluten free beer is that they are terrible. The large amount of hops in Papazian's recipe probably makes up for some sins. Yes, I've been reading it too...

Suppose you just take it as an inspiration and craft your own. Seems to me the Clearex is an integral part of the recipe.
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Re: Charlie's gluten free recipe....
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2011, 06:30:13 pm »
Haven't made it  yet..... on the list. Will be part of a social get together.
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Re: Charlie's gluten free recipe....
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2011, 09:33:12 am »
I've had a number of gluten free beers from a friend who's hoping to to open a gluten free brewery.  I have to admit that none of them were anything I'd choose to drink if I didn't have to.
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Re: Charlie's gluten free recipe....
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2011, 10:38:47 am »
I've had a number of gluten free beers from a friend who's hoping to to open a gluten free brewery.  I have to admit that none of them were anything I'd choose to drink if I didn't have to.

That's been my take on them too.

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Re: Charlie's gluten free recipe....
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2011, 11:38:10 am »
I think the mistake comes from trying to make something taste like something it's not.  Like trying to make tofu taste like meat - it doesn't work and is just disappointing, but tofu as tofu is great.

So make gluten free drinks, and don't try to make them taste exactly like beer.  They should taste good in their own right.  Just my take on it.
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Re: Charlie's gluten free recipe....
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2011, 11:45:04 am »
I think the mistake comes from trying to make something taste like something it's not.  Like trying to make tofu taste like meat - it doesn't work and is just disappointing, but tofu as tofu is great.

So make gluten free drinks, and don't try to make them taste exactly like beer.  They should taste good in their own right.  Just my take on it.

That's spot on IMO.  But, therein lies the difficulty. Perhaps a secondary fermentation or infusion with fresh fruit would be a welcome enhancer for this type of beer.

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Re: Charlie's gluten free recipe....
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2011, 06:43:45 pm »
Well, ordered a vial of Ferm-ex today. We'll see how this pans out.
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Re: Charlie's gluten free recipe....
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2011, 04:42:12 pm »
I think the mistake comes from trying to make something taste like something it's not.  Like trying to make tofu taste like meat - it doesn't work and is just disappointing, but tofu as tofu is great.

So make gluten free drinks, and don't try to make them taste exactly like beer.  They should taste good in their own right.  Just my take on it.

Sounds good to me that way... maybe I'll have to give it a try and see what comes of it.  I remember my Dad talked about using sorghum to make beer way back in the day.  At the time I was only about 12 or so and used to make a mash and dump it on old stumps letting it soak in... deer bait.    ;D

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Re: Charlie's gluten free recipe....
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2011, 09:43:27 am »
Please keep us up to date. I've got a friend in the same boat and if this works for you, I'll be giving it a try.