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Cara Red .... it ain't red
« on: August 05, 2011, 08:56:26 AM »
Brewing a test batch today. Here's what the recipe is:

12 gallons

12 lbs Pils
8 lbs Vienna
4 lbs cara Red
3 lbs Sugar

Wasn't red. A little orangy looking. Added another pound of cara red (5 lbs now). Still not red. What the...?

Gonna put a smidgen of carafa special II in to redden it up was wondering if the homebrew shoppe gave me something else. I broke open a kernal and it was red on inside. But the wort wasn't red.
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Re: Cara Red .... it ain't red
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2011, 09:05:26 AM »
I guess it depends on what you think of as "red".  It's not red as in red velvet cake, but to me it seems to give the beer a definite reddish hue.
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Re: Cara Red .... it ain't red
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2011, 09:25:00 AM »
Gonna put a smidgen of carafa special II in to redden it up

That should help. If you have a coffee grinder...try grinding a smidge to a powder and sprinkle over the mash right before the sparge. Should do the trick.  ;)
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Re: Cara Red .... it ain't red
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2011, 09:54:12 AM »
Not looking for velvet cake, just looking for red. I'm not a vampire or nothin'.  ;)
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Re: Cara Red .... it ain't red
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2011, 09:58:54 AM »
Actually, it's the perfect color now with the carafa and the extra lb of cara red. Could be a tiny bit darker but for this test batch I'm gonna go with it.
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Re: Cara Red .... it ain't red
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2011, 10:08:18 AM »
Can you post a pic of the "red"?
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Re: Cara Red .... it ain't red
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2011, 10:10:55 AM »
I can try with my cell phone. Give me an hour or so.

BTW: When I first pulled a sample (around 10 minutes after dough in) it was decidedly blonde. I wonder if you just need to let it sit? I never really questioned the color of wort so early on in the mash before.
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Re: Cara Red .... it ain't red
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2011, 10:22:15 AM »
Can you post a pic of the "red"?
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Re: Cara Red .... it ain't red
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2011, 10:57:54 AM »
I'm pretty sure carared is just a proprietary name... its basically C 20....

20° L. Provides fuller body and imparts a deep, saturated red color, particularly to red ales and lagers, Scottish ales, bocks and altbiers.
but says you can use up to 25%... obviously its gone thru a slighty different process...
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Re: Cara Red .... it ain't red
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2011, 11:02:21 AM »
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Re: Cara Red .... it ain't red
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2011, 11:12:44 AM »
I'm pretty sure carared is just a proprietary name... its basically C 20....

20° L. Provides fuller body and imparts a deep, saturated red color, particularly to red ales and lagers, Scottish ales, bocks and altbiers.
but says you can use up to 25%... obviously its gone thru a slighty different process...

Next your gonna tell me that CaraVienne is just C 20 and Cara Munich is C-40 or 60.  :P
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Re: Cara Red .... it ain't red
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2011, 11:26:10 AM »
those witty Germans...
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Re: Cara Red .... it ain't red
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2011, 11:38:54 AM »
I'm pretty sure carared is just a proprietary name... its basically C 20....

I've heard that before, but my experience in using it quite a bit is that it's darker and more fermentable.
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Re: Cara Red .... it ain't red
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2011, 01:10:12 PM »
Yea, like I said there is definately something different about it... its labeled as 20L but even using 4-5# of crystal 20 wont turn your beer red....
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Re: Cara Red .... it ain't red
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2011, 02:45:30 PM »
I bet it's tasty though.