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Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« Reply #945 on: March 08, 2016, 12:36:00 AM »
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Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« Reply #946 on: March 08, 2016, 03:53:30 AM »
Awesome looking collection of seeds, Amanda. I grow chiles too, but the Red Savina Habanero is my ceiling for heat. The Reaper is too much fun (or misery) for me. Enjoy!

Oh I'm not eating the Reapers or even going near them after they start fruiting! I have what my friends here call a "baby mouth". So the Numex Sauve Orange and Zavory Habenaro are for me, while the Reapers, Scotch Bonnets, and real Habenaros are for the husband and his hot sauces. I had to leave the house when hot sauce was being made last fall (Ghost, Habs, and Serranos I think).

The Numez and Zavory are supposedly a very mild version of Habenaros... so maybe I'll be able to eat them!  :D The hottest I can do is some Poblanos, but the Tiburons I grew last year were as hot as they were prolific so I didn't get to eat much of them. :/
I'll be interested to hear what you think of the Zavory, Amanda. I had some growing last year, but my wife was sick in the middle of the worst part of the drought last summer so my garden went unattended. I lost all my peppers except two Serranos.

I like heat, but I have outgrown my younger daredevil days of putting Dave's Insanity Sauce straight on wings, and other testosterone-driven nonsense. I generally max out at Serranos for my purposes right now. I like the flavor of Habs, but don't need all the heat. That's why the Zavory was really interesting to me.
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Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« Reply #947 on: March 08, 2016, 01:10:49 PM »
I'll be interested to hear what you think of the Zavory, Amanda. I had some growing last year, but my wife was sick in the middle of the worst part of the drought last summer so my garden went unattended. I lost all my peppers except two Serranos.

I like heat, but I have outgrown my younger daredevil days of putting Dave's Insanity Sauce straight on wings, and other testosterone-driven nonsense. I generally max out at Serranos for my purposes right now. I like the flavor of Habs, but don't need all the heat. That's why the Zavory was really interesting to me.

I'll be sure to let you know. I've never tasted a Hab, but I'll have Myles do a comparison of both the Zavory and the Numex Suave out of curiosity. As for the heat seekers - he makes hot sauce out of a lot of these peppers. Last year, there was a variety produced but the top two heat levels were combos of ghost/habs/serranos and then a hab/serrano/jally. The ghost/hab/serrano blend doesn't even phase a couple of my crazy college friends. We weren't going to grow super-super hots (Ghost+) again this year, but my cousin gave me a handful of Reaper seeds at Christmas. So here we are. Haha.

In other news - my orders from Stark Brothers are coming today and tomorrow! Woot! I picked up 3 triple crown blackberries, 9 Heritage raspberries, a bit of rhubarb, and one of their tart cherry trees.  8) I finally ordered the bits I needed to expand the drip irrigation to everything (including the new blackcurrant bushes) and to run a permanent pipe from the house to the garden... so we will be livin' big this year.  ;D

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Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« Reply #948 on: March 08, 2016, 03:05:39 PM »
Getting a box of brambles! That is like an extra Xmas day.

Those reapers make a very tasty hot sauce. I am looking forward to their gnarled beauty along a path in the yard this year.

I am doing my research for drip irrigation this week. I need a lot of it.
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Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« Reply #949 on: March 08, 2016, 03:22:03 PM »
Getting a box of brambles! That is like an extra Xmas day.

Those reapers make a very tasty hot sauce. I am looking forward to their gnarled beauty along a path in the yard this year.

I am doing my research for drip irrigation this week. I need a lot of it.
I'm going to do drip irrigation this year as well, I'm picking up my bulk NOFA order this week that will include that. I'm really looking forward to having it.
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Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« Reply #950 on: March 08, 2016, 03:23:17 PM »
This is probably a topic for another thread, but what do you guy's mean by "hot sauce" made from these nuclear peppers?

Is it a Louisiana/Crystal/Frank's cooked type of vinegar based sauce or are we talking salsa (fresh or canned) or even a fermented sauce?
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Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« Reply #951 on: March 08, 2016, 03:32:25 PM »
Getting a box of brambles! That is like an extra Xmas day.

Those reapers make a very tasty hot sauce. I am looking forward to their gnarled beauty along a path in the yard this year.

I am doing my research for drip irrigation this week. I need a lot of it.
I'm going to do drip irrigation this year as well, I'm picking up my bulk NOFA order this week that will include that. I'm really looking forward to having it.

FWIW, I've used Drip Depot and will use them again. And again.
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Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« Reply #952 on: March 08, 2016, 03:33:56 PM »
This is probably a topic for another thread, but what do you guy's mean by "hot sauce" made from these nuclear peppers?

Is it a Louisiana/Crystal/Frank's cooked type of vinegar based sauce or are we talking salsa (fresh or canned) or even a fermented sauce?

I was thinking we should start a "hot sauce" thread. I know there are some folks around that have a lot of experience.  I've had my first experimental fermented batch percolating away for several weeks now. I'd about a gallon of blanched and pureed mostly Habs, lemon cayenne, serranos, anchos, a few jalapenos. Basically everything that was left over from last year and still in the freezer from 2014 tossed into the pot. Added some garlic, onion, sugar and Nancy's Organic plain yogurt. It smells pretty good and is definitely active. I just have saran wrap and a rubber band on top. Really no clue what I'm doing but I figure once I verify the pH is below 3.5 I'm pretty safe to sample. 
Oops, sorry yes a new thread...:)
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Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« Reply #953 on: March 08, 2016, 04:06:05 PM »
This is probably a topic for another thread, but what do you guy's mean by "hot sauce" made from these nuclear peppers?

Is it a Louisiana/Crystal/Frank's cooked type of vinegar based sauce or are we talking salsa (fresh or canned) or even a fermented sauce?

We typically follow the Mrs. Wheelbarrow (Cathy Barrow) approach, found at the bottom of this page.

I tried fermenting with lacto from yogurt, which didn't work well. Now I have some Swanson's Lacto Planarium, so I'll be giving it another go this year.

We waterbath can it until it is in use (ensuring the pH is low enough), then it gets into a woozy bottle and the fridge when it's time to open and use it.
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Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« Reply #954 on: March 08, 2016, 04:08:46 PM »
This is probably a topic for another thread, but what do you guy's mean by "hot sauce" made from these nuclear peppers?

Is it a Louisiana/Crystal/Frank's cooked type of vinegar based sauce or are we talking salsa (fresh or canned) or even a fermented sauce?

I was thinking we should start a "hot sauce" thread. I know there are some folks around that have a lot of experience.  I've had my first experimental fermented batch percolating away for several weeks now. I'd about a gallon of blanched and pureed mostly Habs, lemon cayenne, serranos, anchos, a few jalapenos. Basically everything that was left over from last year and still in the freezer from 2014 tossed into the pot. Added some garlic, onion, sugar and Nancy's Organic plain yogurt. It smells pretty good and is definitely active. I just have saran wrap and a rubber band on top. Really no clue what I'm doing but I figure once I verify the pH is below 3.5 I'm pretty safe to sample. 
Oops, sorry yes a new thread...:)

Niiiiice. I have no clue either, but 2 of the 3 sauces I made were tasty. The other smells and looks terrible.

I was talking about Fermented hot sauce, Euge.

Thanks for the tip, Amanda. I will look into Drip Depot.
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Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« Reply #955 on: March 08, 2016, 04:13:36 PM »
I think there is one or two but buried years back. Think I'm done with resurrecting those zombies. Ought to start a fresh one!

You need at least 1.5% salt by of weight the peppers when you're fermenting them to encourage the lacto and inhibit other bacteria and yeast. Somewhere stuck in my head is that you add another 1.5% salt after it's fermented out (30 days-ish).

Oh and I do it wild without any culture such as yogurt.
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Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« Reply #956 on: March 08, 2016, 04:20:54 PM »
I think there is one or two but buried years back. Think I'm done with resurrecting those zombies. Ought to start a fresh one!

You need at least 1.5% salt by of weight the peppers when you're fermenting them to encourage the lacto and inhibit other bacteria and yeast. Somewhere stuck in my head is that you add another 1.5% salt after it's fermented out (30 days-ish).

Oh and I do it wild without any culture such as yogurt.
I can't remember using a culture either.
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Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« Reply #957 on: March 08, 2016, 05:19:11 PM »
Made about 1.5 liters of pure habanero-sauce that is just right. Complex like Tabasco but with the hab flavor and heat.
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Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« Reply #958 on: March 08, 2016, 05:23:32 PM »
Made about 1.5 liters of pure habanero-sauce that is just right. Complex like Tabasco but with the hab flavor and heat.


I make all kinds of hot sauces, too. Love the habanero stuff - all the heat I need.
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Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« Reply #959 on: March 10, 2016, 02:05:46 PM »
I agree, a hot sauce thread would be great.