I'm sorry, but there is a point where a fermented malt beverage is no longer beer. Mike's hard being an example. There's a craft brewery that says "malt beverage" rather than beer on the label, was/is it Dominion?
And if drinking malt beverage is your thing, fine. I don't care. I really don't.
Also, far as I can tell, this place IS inclusive. Plenty of posts about mead, wine, sake, etc...why not admit that malt beverages are a part of that? Let's just call them that, that's all I'm asking.
But from what I can tell, craft beer has bought into the Macro race to the bottom. Sickly sweet, gets you buzzed fast, mass market appeal...vs. being true to beer, which is how all this started.
Meanwhile, I just want fresh beer.
Oh, and Denny, I forgot one: Yuengling Golden Pils is an excellent craft lager, I had forgotten that one. Sadly now that it's not new it isn't as popular...and it's harder to find fresh. Still an easier task than most craft beers though.